You’ve got to know whom to bite.

And now it makes perfect sense that I never liked South Park.

South Park creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker still can’t believe a signed photo of Saddam Hussein U.S. Marines sent them is for real – but they hope it is.

Legend has it the troops screened the duo’s 1999 film South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut before the former Iraqi dictator was executed in 2006.

In the film, an animated Hussein is depicted as Satan’s gay lover.

Stone says, “We’re very proud of our signed Saddam picture and what it means… I have it on pretty good information from the Marines on detail in Iraq that they showed Saddam the movie over and over again, which is a pretty funny thought.”

Because as much as I disliked Saddam Hussein – and I really did – his trial was a sham and the man was murdered. That’s not something to be proud of. And when you’re an idiot with not the slightest bit of political understanding, your “satire” tends to fall flat.

(Edited to add text of the article, since IMDb is so primitive.)

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  1. Yup, I read this piece of news earlier elsewhere and wondered whether the South Park guys have suddenly become nuts – quite obviously, they have.

  2. JM

     /  April 13, 2009

    Fast & Furious Races To Top Of International Box Office – ist doch ne gute Nachricht 😉 Ich seh da keine Meldung zu South Park, würde aber gern lesen, was du meinst.

  3. John Hauser

     /  April 15, 2009

    I am posting this for asking something, and it really doesn´t has anything to do with the post.

    ¿Why you say in Dog’s name?

    I’m curious about it

  4. Quite simply because it amuses me.

  5. John Hauser

     /  April 16, 2009

    But…

    dog
    God

    If this is the reason, please don’t do it.

    If not, my apologies, and this comment never existed.

  6. If this is the reason, please don’t do it.

    It is the reason, and it amuses me. And if there happens to be a God, I don’t think the all-knowing, all-powerful being that created everything from the hugest galaxies to the tiniest quarks will really mind if I enjoy a silly pun…

  7. John Hauser

     /  April 17, 2009

    Please read it all, and try to understand what i mean.

    This may be true, but deep in ourselves we know this is wrong, as we all know, for example, that murder is also wrong.
    What tells us this is our conscience. We must learn to listen to it. But first, we must learn to hear.

    But, if we feel unsure or really don’t think that is true,

    Let me tell it on another way:

    Would you do the same in front of a king?

    Oh also, why do you think He wouldn´t care? (i´m not using sarcasm)

    This is not aimed to offend or annoy, but to question, even if it may look like the contrary.

  8. This may be true, but deep in ourselves we know this is wrong

    Don’t assume that because you deeply feel something, other people must too. There have been enough people who deeply felt that God commanded them to kill someone.

    Also, Jesus made a point of the fact the blasphemy against him or God didn’t really matter. Only blasphemy against the holy spirit matters, according to Jesus – and by holy spirit I am pretty certain that he means something like morality and compassion, not a ghost fluttering about under a big white sheet in the sky. (Matthew 12:32) I still think he’s being a little mean, but hey.

    Would you do the same in front of a king?

    In front of a kind I’d be looking for a guillotine. By the way, since when are Christians supposed to have any kind of respect for kings and the like?

    Oh also, why do you think He wouldn´t care?

    Because I think a being that vast and ancient – so vast and ancient we cannot even imagine it – that is aware of everything from the tiniest quark in your body to galaxies colliding a million light-years away, would have a bit of perspective on something as superficial and silly as a pun. Everything else would be, well, childish in the extreme.

  9. John Hauser

     /  April 24, 2009

    This may be true, but deep in ourselves we know this is wrong

    Don’t assume that because you deeply feel something, other people must too. There have been enough people who deeply felt that God commanded them to kill someone.

    Well
    This is true. (What i said, is, but also what you’ve said) (more down)

    Also, Jesus made a point of the fact the blasphemy against him or God didn’t really matter.
    Only blasphemy against the holy spirit matters, according to Jesus – and by holy spirit I
    am pretty certain that he means something like morality and compassion, not a ghost
    fluttering about under a big white sheet in the sky. (Matthew 12:32)
    I still think he’s being a little mean, but hey.

    No. Jesus really said that, but he said that it did`nt matter because God can forgive you, if you repent. But the blasphemy against the holy spirit is unforgivable.

    Also, Jesus, with the Holy Spirit, doen´t means anything about morality and compassion, he means to God.
    Jesus said that “I and the Father are the same”, he said, in short, that they are one, but they are different.
    I´ts the same for the Holy Spirit. Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit are the same, and different.

    So, if he means to the Holy Spirit, he means to God, they are the same, the Holy Spirit is not morality or
    compassion or something like that, morality, compassion and so on is what the Holy Spirit gives to us, that is,
    values and principles.

    And why mean?

    Would you do the same in front of a king?

    In front of a kind I’d be looking for a guillotine. By the way, since when are Christians supposed to have any kind of
    respect for kings and the like?

    Well, complete respect and that, no. With the king thing i was setting out a comparison, you dont do that in front of a king.
    Not only because he can punish you (hardy, sometimes) but that you have respect for him (depends).

    And that’s the point of Christianism. Doing things not because you can get punished by God, but because you respect him and
    love him.

    Oh also, why do you think He wouldn´t care?

    Because I think a being that vast and ancient – so vast and ancient we cannot even imagine
    it – that is aware of everything from the tiniest quark in your body to galaxies colliding a million
    light-years away, would have a bit of perspective on something as superficial and silly as a pun.
    Everything else would be, well, childish in the extreme.

    Well, do not expect God to think like us. We’re humans, and he is God. Anyway, even if God would have the bit of perspective
    you’re alking about (that is something i don’t know), it wouldn’t be nice, anyway. That is because your pun degrades what he is because since he created us, and created everything, even the intention of the pun would not change what it is really, a insult.

    Maybe it was to make you aware.

    Both, good or bad things, that happen to us, may do something good in our lives, even if i´ts nearly getting killed.

    Maybe it was because the materials that attach the thing to the wall had grown weak.

    Well, of course, i’d daresay that’s his way of doing things, He organizes things in a way that helps us, but we have to put
    our part.

    And if there is an interventionist God, what about the people who do get killed? Simply his mysterious ways?

    Yes. Why we die and all that, well, it´s on the Bible () but also remember that (for us, i dont know for you) death is not a
    end, but a beginning.

    Lets say life is a test, and it ends the moment we die.

    Oh, also, look for this book: ¿Is philosophy a chinese story? i don’t know if there’s a version in english.

  10. No. Jesus really said that, but he said that it did`nt matter because God can forgive you, if you repent. But the blasphemy against the holy spirit is unforgivable.

    Also, Jesus, with the Holy Spirit, doen´t means anything about morality and compassion, he means to God.
    Jesus said that “I and the Father are the same”, he said, in short, that they are one, but they are different.
    I´ts the same for the Holy Spirit. Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit are the same, and different.

    So, if he means to the Holy Spirit, he means to God, they are the same, the Holy Spirit is not morality or
    compassion or something like that, morality, compassion and so on is what the Holy Spirit gives to us, that is,
    values and principles.

    That’s a matter of interpretation. And if the Holy Spirit and God are the same, why would Jesus make a distinction in terms of blasphemy? Is it just the word that makes the difference? If I crack a joke about God, he can forgive me, but if instead of God I say Holy Spirit, he can’t? Is it a bureaucratic technicality?

    And why mean?

    Because saying that you will never forgive someone because of a mistake they made is, well, mean. And petty.

    Well, do not expect God to think like us. We’re humans, and he is God. Anyway, even if God would have the bit of perspective
    you’re alking about (that is something i don’t know), it wouldn’t be nice, anyway. That is because your pun degrades what he is because since he created us, and created everything, even the intention of the pun would not change what it is really, a insult.

    And he doesn’t have a sense of humour? He takes immediate and deadly insult because of a pun? I wouldn’t respect a human who was that childish, let alone a god. As Chesterton said, “Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity.” A truly supreme God wouldn’t mind. He might even think it funny. And a God who takes offense over a single human making a pun, but does not take offense at the bombing of children…

    Yes. Why we die and all that, well, it´s on the Bible () but also remember that (for us, i dont know for you) death is not a
    end, but a beginning.

    But if every death is in God’s plan, how can there be free will? And without free will, how can our choices matter? If when a soldier shoots a child, or a plane bombs a school, it’s all part of God’s plan, there how is there any injustice involved?

    More importantly, if God is indeed an interventionist, then how come a roof tile hasn’t dropped onto the head of George Bush? Does God really care more about puns than about murder?

    Lets say life is a test, and it ends the moment we die.

    And if you’re a 5 year old Iraqi child shot by an American soldier? A Palestinian child shot by an Israeli? An Israeli child killed by a suicide bomber? An American child killed in the World Trade Center? Where’s the test now? You can’t just claim that there is a clear meaning to some events (“God threw a roof tile at you to make a point!”) but explain everything else by saying “God is mysterious”.

  11. John Hauser

     /  May 8, 2009

    That’s a matter of interpretation. And if the Holy Spirit and God are the same, why would Jesus make a distinction in terms of blasphemy? Is it just the word that makes the difference? If I crack a joke about God, he can forgive me, but if instead of God I say Holy Spirit, he can’t? Is it a (bureaucratic technicality)?

    And why mean?

    Because saying that you will never forgive someone because of a mistake they made is, well, mean. And petty.

    Let me explain why: God always forgives you, if you repent. But we need help of the Holy Spirit to do that. When we make a sin against the Holy Spirit, i’ts like telling him “get out of me, i dont want you here”, and He leaves. Why? you may ask. Because the Holy Spirit, and Jesus, and God, take our choices into account. So He leaves, because we wanted Him to do that, and without Him, we can’t repent.

    I don’t really think that may be a mistake, do you?

    i’ts worse because you separate yourself from God

    And yes, Jonas, the word can make a difference, because though being just ONE word, it can be meant to a lot of people, or to God, or to the Holy Spirit

    And the pun…

    Or it may be that the pun is a source of amusement, and it can give you a bit of pride. Also, back to the king thing, you dont crack jokes about him for respect

    The Bible is a symbolic book, Jonas. You could pick any passage and give it thousands of meanings. To interpret them, first you have to be searching for the truth, rather for anything you want. Later, you have to take the context in count. Look what was before in the passage you are mentioning an you may see what i’m talking about.

    Why children die? why do they get killed? Because God gave us liberty. And he gave us morale, also, SO THAT WE COULD PICK, between following right or wrong (with the consequences), Most children get killed because there is a idiot (example, Bush) who was a “reason” to kill, and doesn’t care about what’s right.

    And if every death is in God’s plan, how can there be free will?

    Death is not included in God’s plan, even if it may seem so. Children and people get killed because others kill them. Or I’d daresay they are included, but that God never made them, they are still the work of others. And with included, i mean that God uses them to get something good (that may be hard to beilieve, but yes), or to put us on test. Remember that misery is not something he wanted, but something the devil wanted, and some humans, too.

    That means, humans kill humans. There are people who kill the children and the people you have always mentioned, there is no use pointing the finger of blame against God, or trying to prove with it that He doesn’t exists.

    And with this, i am NOT saying murdering can be good.

    And if you’re wondering why a roof tile hasn’t fallen on Bush, that may be because God is giving him a chance, though he may not be using it.

    And he doesn’t have a sense of humour? He takes immediate and deadly insult because of a pun? I wouldn’t respect a human who was that childish, let alone a god. As Chesterton said, “Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity.” A truly supreme God wouldn’t mind. He might even think it funny. And a God who takes offense over a single human making a pun, but does not take offense at the bombing of children…

    And when the FUCK i said that he didn´t take offense about bombing children?

    Also, define childish, and look in yourself,¿Your “Godly perspective and sense of humour” is something you have thought, something that comes from your conscience? ¿Or they are just some empty words, made to assuage your conscience? You’ve gotta grip the difference between both. And Nietzche started the same way, too.

    And you must search in your conscience, and be honest with yourself, too.

    Don’t assume that because you deeply feel something, other people must too. There have been enough people who deeply felt that God commanded them to kill someone.

    And for these cases, i’ts the same, you have to differ between conscience, and everything else, like imagination, or in some cases; insanity. For things like these, there are other people who can orientate you, and there is also a law: You must not kill.

    Don’t assume that this is for you, they are the reasons why that is wrong.

    Yes. Why we die and all that, well, it´s on the Bible () but also remember that (for us, i dont know for you) death is not a
    end, but a beginning.

    But if every death is in God’s plan, how can there be free will? And without free will, how can our choices matter? If when a soldier shoots a child, or a plane bombs a school, it’s all part of God’s plan, there how is there any injustice involved?

    No. Murder and all of these are NOT a part of God’s plan, but the ravings of other humans who dont use well their freedom. God uses them, but he doesn’t wants them.

    Lets say life is a test, and it ends the moment we die.

    And if you’re a 5 year old Iraqi child shot by an American soldier? A Palestinian child shot by an Israeli? An Israeli child killed by a suicide bomber? An American child killed in the World Trade Center? Where’s the test now? You can’t just claim that there is a clear meaning to some events (”God threw a roof tile at you to make a point!”) but explain everything else by saying “God is mysterious”.

    For those children, i don’t know if there is a test, but it is not because God wanted to, but that some humans wanted to. It’s the human liberty that caused this.

    And you may be right. On the thing that God is mysterious.

    In the end, war is NOT a work of God, and it is not a way to say He doesn’t exists, or that He is mean. The same goes for the unforgivable sin, and i’d daresay the pun is bad, wrong.

  12. I’m sorry, but you’re constantly contradicting yourself, changing your argument so that things fit together. So the things which don’t fit into your philosophy of destiny are done by humans, and everything else is done by God? All sorts of questions pop up that you can’t even begin to answer. Why does a just God not give the bombed children a chance, and does give Bush a chance? Why is it random luck when a tile kills a child but the hand of God when a tile doesn’t kill me? (And, of course, if there is an interventionist God, who does not approve of murder, why doesn’t he do something about it? Don’t tell me it’s our freedom of choice, because you just said that God does interfere.)

    Also, define childish, and look in yourself,¿Your “Godly perspective and sense of humour” is something you have thought, something that comes from your conscience? ¿Or they are just some empty words, made to assuage your conscience? You’ve gotta grip the difference between both. And Nietzche started the same way, too.

    No, they are not empty words. They are not empty words at all. Childish and petty are pretty simple words, I don’t need to define them. If God can take offense at a pun – something even I wouldn’t take offense at – then he’s rather pathetic. Especially in the face of everything else that’s going on, which doesn’t seem to concern him at all. After all, if he has the power and willingness to drop tiles on me, why not on the people who murder the innocent?

    God always forgives you, if you repent.

    Not much of a forgiveness if it has to be based on the person repenting. Christ said “love your enemies.” He didn’t say “love only your friends.” He insisted that we have to love those who would do us harm, those who have NOT repented. Because forgiving someone who has repented is easy, it doesn’t show a whole lot of moral fibre. Trying to understand and forgiving someone DESPITE their foolishness, now that is forgiveness.
    And God, of all people, should be able to understand everyone. He made them, after all. If someone rejects God, then he rejects God because of who he is, because of his life and his genes and whatever else happened to him; but God, being the maker of all things, and all-knowing to boot, must be able to fully understand why this person chose to do what they did – how it was, in fact, inevitable. And, being the creator and everything, he is also responsible for this. Free will still operates within the boundaries set by our environment and our minds, and those are God’s.

    And yes, Jonas, the word can make a difference, because though being just ONE word, it can be meant to a lot of people, or to God, or to the Holy Spirit

    So God is childish enough to condemn someone to eternal damnation because he didn’t like a pun they made? And since when is the ability to repent of one’s actions tied to a belief in God?

    In the end, war is NOT a work of God, and it is not a way to say He doesn’t exists, or that He is mean. The same goes for the unforgivable sin, and i’d daresay the pun is bad, wrong.

    And I say that the existence of a just and all-powerful interventionist God does preclude the existence of war, and if God can’t take a tiny joke from a tiny human being in the vast and eternal universe he has created, then he’s something of an idiot, and not worth worshipping.

    The Bible is a symbolic book, Jonas. You could pick any passage and give it thousands of meanings.

    No, it’s not. That’s just a popular misconception by people who have read only the occasionaly passage. Sorry. Go back and read it. All of it. There are parts that clearly deal in allegory, but those are just some. There is more than enough that is meant as historical fact.