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		<title>By: Jonas</title>
		<link>http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/2010/03/04/not-the-real-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-2044</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I did. Shameful, but that&#039;s how the police operate these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I did. Shameful, but that&#8217;s how the police operate these days.</p>
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		<title>By: gnome</title>
		<link>http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/2010/03/04/not-the-real-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-2043</link>
		<dc:creator>gnome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely agree. By the way, you did hear what happened to Manolis Glezos today, didn&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely agree. By the way, you did hear what happened to Manolis Glezos today, didn&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And don&#039;t get me started on the fucking Olympics... biggest fucking waste of money in Greek history. If we needed to have them, we should&#039;ve done them old-school, at the original locations and with nude athletes. Now that would&#039;ve been worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And don&#8217;t get me started on the fucking Olympics&#8230; biggest fucking waste of money in Greek history. If we needed to have them, we should&#8217;ve done them old-school, at the original locations and with nude athletes. Now that would&#8217;ve been worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If I may say so myself said continuity doesn’t quite matter. It is there -partly of course, as thousands of years of conquering and being conquered does help with mixing things up- but has nothing to do with modern history. Modern history such as the resistance movement of the 1940s we can easily be proud of.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m with you there. My point is more about the usage of this non-authenticity discourse in the German media than about what Greek people should be proud of or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If I may say so myself said continuity doesn’t quite matter. It is there -partly of course, as thousands of years of conquering and being conquered does help with mixing things up- but has nothing to do with modern history. Modern history such as the resistance movement of the 1940s we can easily be proud of.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m with you there. My point is more about the usage of this non-authenticity discourse in the German media than about what Greek people should be proud of or not.</p>
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		<title>By: gnome</title>
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		<dc:creator>gnome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I may say so myself said continuity doesn&#039;t quite matter. It is there -partly of course, as thousands of years of conquering and being conquered does help with mixing things up- but has nothing to do with modern history. Modern history such as the resistance movement of the 1940s we can easily be proud of. 

Now, let&#039;s talk Olympics and debt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I may say so myself said continuity doesn&#8217;t quite matter. It is there -partly of course, as thousands of years of conquering and being conquered does help with mixing things up- but has nothing to do with modern history. Modern history such as the resistance movement of the 1940s we can easily be proud of. </p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s talk Olympics and debt&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The modern Greek do indeed have almost nothing in common with the ancient ones.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I would contest that on a lot of levels, actually. If anything, Greece is notable for the way its ancient and modern culture are linked - especially through the Greek language. That doesn&#039;t mean that the glories of the past are ours to claim, or that there isn&#039;t much that has changed, but it is a historical fact that there is a continuity of Greek culture.

By itself this obviously has nothing to do with reparations; but the discourse that portrays modern Greeks as impostors certainly does.

Edit to add this from Wikiquote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;[..] yet the historical evolution of the Greek language reveals a continuing identity which cannot be paralleled in any other Indo-European language. It is convenient and correct to separate ancient Greek civilization, but, in the words of Nicholas Bachtin, &#039;it is neither convenient nor accurate to speak of a modern Greek &quot;language&quot;. There is no such thing. There is only the present state of Greek&#039; (Bachtin 1935:11). From Homer to modern demotic, the Greek language has enjoyed a slow, organic and uninterrupted growth, and the major changes can be charted in an unbroken literary tradition. Nor has Greek split up into a group of languages, as Latin into the Romance languages. Finally, Homeric Greek is probably closer to demotic than twelfth-century Middle English is to modern spoken English.

    * Standard Languages: Spoken and Written. By William Haas. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

As someone who has dealt a lot with language in his studies, I can really appreciate just how extraordinary this is.

Which still has nothing to do with the racism of the media or the bullshit nationalism of right-wing Greeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The modern Greek do indeed have almost nothing in common with the ancient ones.</p></blockquote>
<p>I would contest that on a lot of levels, actually. If anything, Greece is notable for the way its ancient and modern culture are linked &#8211; especially through the Greek language. That doesn&#8217;t mean that the glories of the past are ours to claim, or that there isn&#8217;t much that has changed, but it is a historical fact that there is a continuity of Greek culture.</p>
<p>By itself this obviously has nothing to do with reparations; but the discourse that portrays modern Greeks as impostors certainly does.</p>
<p>Edit to add this from Wikiquote:</p>
<blockquote><p>[..] yet the historical evolution of the Greek language reveals a continuing identity which cannot be paralleled in any other Indo-European language. It is convenient and correct to separate ancient Greek civilization, but, in the words of Nicholas Bachtin, &#8216;it is neither convenient nor accurate to speak of a modern Greek &#8220;language&#8221;. There is no such thing. There is only the present state of Greek&#8217; (Bachtin 1935:11). From Homer to modern demotic, the Greek language has enjoyed a slow, organic and uninterrupted growth, and the major changes can be charted in an unbroken literary tradition. Nor has Greek split up into a group of languages, as Latin into the Romance languages. Finally, Homeric Greek is probably closer to demotic than twelfth-century Middle English is to modern spoken English.</p>
<p>    * Standard Languages: Spoken and Written. By William Haas. </p></blockquote>
<p>As someone who has dealt a lot with language in his studies, I can really appreciate just how extraordinary this is.</p>
<p>Which still has nothing to do with the racism of the media or the bullshit nationalism of right-wing Greeks.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The modern Greek do indeed have almost nothing in common with the ancient ones. But that doesn&#039;t change the fact that reparations for WW2 should have been paid long ago cause. It&#039;s another story altogher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The modern Greek do indeed have almost nothing in common with the ancient ones. But that doesn&#8217;t change the fact that reparations for WW2 should have been paid long ago cause. It&#8217;s another story altogher.</p>
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