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	<title>Comments on: 9/11, or How Urizen Plays His Game</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathon Wisnoski</title>
		<link>http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/2009/09/11/911-or-how-urizen-plays-his-game/comment-page-1/#comment-13422</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon Wisnoski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 02:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, thanks Jonas, I had no idea what Stegg was talking about for a second but your response clarified the situation.

Well first off the mosque, from what I have heard, is actually not even that close it is like 10 blocks away.

Secondly segregation is no way to mend hurt feelings between two different cultures.

And unless the government wants to enact some anti Islamic laws, as far as I am concerned they should be able to do whatever they want wherever they want (within the laws) (even if they are blatantly disrespecting 9/11 victims).


different topic ---
&quot;And the terrorists also proved that they were no different from the people they supposedly opposed: what were the people of the World Trade Center to the them, if not collateral damage?&quot;
For the sake of argument lets say that &quot;The crimes, of course, were and are completely real and terrible&quot; is true and that they were justified in so sort of attack (not that I disagree, I simply do not want to come off like that is a incontrovertible fact while I know little of the facts).

America has far more military might then pretty much any other nation, they would not have stood a chance against them. And it is not like the citizens of a country (particularly a democratic country) can be held completely non responsible for the crimes of their government (ignorance is not an excuse). Sure it may not be fair or nice for some random office workers to be blown up one day, but then it is not fair or nice what the US does so some less powerful countries. So attacking the citizens of the US seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable measure and one that anyone put in the David vs Goliath situation would take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, thanks Jonas, I had no idea what Stegg was talking about for a second but your response clarified the situation.</p>
<p>Well first off the mosque, from what I have heard, is actually not even that close it is like 10 blocks away.</p>
<p>Secondly segregation is no way to mend hurt feelings between two different cultures.</p>
<p>And unless the government wants to enact some anti Islamic laws, as far as I am concerned they should be able to do whatever they want wherever they want (within the laws) (even if they are blatantly disrespecting 9/11 victims).</p>
<p>different topic &#8212;<br />
&#8220;And the terrorists also proved that they were no different from the people they supposedly opposed: what were the people of the World Trade Center to the them, if not collateral damage?&#8221;<br />
For the sake of argument lets say that &#8220;The crimes, of course, were and are completely real and terrible&#8221; is true and that they were justified in so sort of attack (not that I disagree, I simply do not want to come off like that is a incontrovertible fact while I know little of the facts).</p>
<p>America has far more military might then pretty much any other nation, they would not have stood a chance against them. And it is not like the citizens of a country (particularly a democratic country) can be held completely non responsible for the crimes of their government (ignorance is not an excuse). Sure it may not be fair or nice for some random office workers to be blown up one day, but then it is not fair or nice what the US does so some less powerful countries. So attacking the citizens of the US seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable measure and one that anyone put in the David vs Goliath situation would take.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I felt that yes we should be allowing freedom but I also felt that those who wanted to create this mosque should have been more sensitive to the feelings of the families and friends of the victims who were so obviously going to be outraged.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
They didn&#039;t want to &quot;create a mosque,&quot; they wanted to create a community center that included a place for prayer and a 9/11 memorial. And they had the support of local rabbis!

And I don&#039;t see at all what is &quot;obvious&quot; about people finding this outrageous.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It was almost like asking for a reaction which is why I disliked it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Quite wrong. They went about this in the most peaceful and respectful way possible, trying to use their religion to preach love and reconciliation.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I suppose though in someways, I can find myself being a bit of an islamophobe and I do realise I may be being biased. Its more the culture I am against however&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What culture? There is no such thing as &quot;Islamic culture.&quot; Islam is a religion, not a culture, and it is widely spread across many different areas with many different cultures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I felt that yes we should be allowing freedom but I also felt that those who wanted to create this mosque should have been more sensitive to the feelings of the families and friends of the victims who were so obviously going to be outraged.</p></blockquote>
<p>They didn&#8217;t want to &#8220;create a mosque,&#8221; they wanted to create a community center that included a place for prayer and a 9/11 memorial. And they had the support of local rabbis!</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t see at all what is &#8220;obvious&#8221; about people finding this outrageous.</p>
<blockquote><p>It was almost like asking for a reaction which is why I disliked it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Quite wrong. They went about this in the most peaceful and respectful way possible, trying to use their religion to preach love and reconciliation.</p>
<blockquote><p>I suppose though in someways, I can find myself being a bit of an islamophobe and I do realise I may be being biased. Its more the culture I am against however</p></blockquote>
<p>What culture? There is no such thing as &#8220;Islamic culture.&#8221; Islam is a religion, not a culture, and it is widely spread across many different areas with many different cultures.</p>
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		<title>By: Stegg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stegg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I felt that yes we should be allowing freedom but I also felt that those who wanted to create this mosque should have been more sensitive to the feelings of the families and friends of the victims who were so obviously going to be outraged. It was almost like asking for a reaction which is why I disliked it. I suppose though in someways, I can find myself being a bit of an islamophobe and I do realise I may be being biased. Its more the culture I am against however</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I felt that yes we should be allowing freedom but I also felt that those who wanted to create this mosque should have been more sensitive to the feelings of the families and friends of the victims who were so obviously going to be outraged. It was almost like asking for a reaction which is why I disliked it. I suppose though in someways, I can find myself being a bit of an islamophobe and I do realise I may be being biased. Its more the culture I am against however</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom is a real thing &#171; Jonas Kyratzes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedom is a real thing &#171; Jonas Kyratzes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this anniversary of 9/11, I thought I didn&#8217;t have anything to add to what I said last year. But as it turns out, Michael Moore does have something to say, and I think it&#8217;s very [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this anniversary of 9/11, I thought I didn&#8217;t have anything to add to what I said last year. But as it turns out, Michael Moore does have something to say, and I think it&#8217;s very [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Q0nd0ry W3ary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q0nd0ry W3ary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can only say: &quot;Hear, hear!&quot;</description>
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