Comments on: Local Homes for Local People. Germany to the Germans. Are we in V for Vendetta? http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/2009/07/23/local-homes-for-local-people-germany-to-the-germans-are-we-in-v-for-vendetta/ Writer, game designer, filmmaker. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:35:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jonas http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/2009/07/23/local-homes-for-local-people-germany-to-the-germans-are-we-in-v-for-vendetta/comment-page-1/#comment-731 Jonas Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:46:10 +0000 http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/?p=610#comment-731 Also, Godwin's law is really irrelevant. The comparison makes sense. That's simple linguistics. Also, Godwin’s law is really irrelevant. The comparison makes sense. That’s simple linguistics.

]]> By: Jonas http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/2009/07/23/local-homes-for-local-people-germany-to-the-germans-are-we-in-v-for-vendetta/comment-page-1/#comment-730 Jonas Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:44:50 +0000 http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/?p=610#comment-730 Well, we shall have to agree to disagree. To me the parallels in the mindset evoked are strikingly similar. I actually see a lot fewer parallels to Apartheid - this isn't a case of segregation, but of creating an "other" (to use the fashionable and often misapplied postcolonial terminology) that can be blamed for the current situation. Well, we shall have to agree to disagree. To me the parallels in the mindset evoked are strikingly similar. I actually see a lot fewer parallels to Apartheid – this isn’t a case of segregation, but of creating an “other” (to use the fashionable and often misapplied postcolonial terminology) that can be blamed for the current situation.

]]> By: JM http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/2009/07/23/local-homes-for-local-people-germany-to-the-germans-are-we-in-v-for-vendetta/comment-page-1/#comment-727 JM Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:50:58 +0000 http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/?p=610#comment-727 But nationalism doesn't automatically lead to fascism. It's bad enough in itself most of the times. I see parallels to other right-wing governments, but segragation is not that uncommon. I mean, if you would have said it has an element of Apartheid, ok. Comparing it to Nazi Germany feels like Godwins Law entered the debate a bit early. As for the discourse, it's nothing extraordinary, most governments use some populist policies to appease their closed-minded voters. If the article is to be trusted, then the effect wouldn't really be that big on immigrants, so it is a measure to do just that. But nationalism doesn’t automatically lead to fascism. It’s bad enough in itself most of the times. I see parallels to other right-wing governments, but segragation is not that uncommon. I mean, if you would have said it has an element of Apartheid, ok. Comparing it to Nazi Germany feels like Godwins Law entered the debate a bit early. As for the discourse, it’s nothing extraordinary, most governments use some populist policies to appease their closed-minded voters. If the article is to be trusted, then the effect wouldn’t really be that big on immigrants, so it is a measure to do just that.

]]> By: Jonas http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/2009/07/23/local-homes-for-local-people-germany-to-the-germans-are-we-in-v-for-vendetta/comment-page-1/#comment-726 Jonas Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:30:07 +0000 http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/?p=610#comment-726 I think the parallel <i>does</i> work - not in terms of the "minorities" involved, but in terms of the type of discourse it represents. I think the parallel does work – not in terms of the “minorities” involved, but in terms of the type of discourse it represents.

]]> By: JM http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/2009/07/23/local-homes-for-local-people-germany-to-the-germans-are-we-in-v-for-vendetta/comment-page-1/#comment-724 JM Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:34:37 +0000 http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/?p=610#comment-724 This parallel doesn't really work. Deutschland den Deutschen was a slogan directed against the native population that was living there for generations but didn't fit into the NSDAP image of being german. There were almost no migrants except for displaced persons from the war. Anyway, the legislation doesn't surprise me. Labour is a right-wing party, in some fields moreso than the Conservatives. This parallel doesn’t really work. Deutschland den Deutschen was a slogan directed against the native population that was living there for generations but didn’t fit into the NSDAP image of being german. There were almost no migrants except for displaced persons from the war.

Anyway, the legislation doesn’t surprise me. Labour is a right-wing party, in some fields moreso than the Conservatives.

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